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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Credit scores are bullshit. Let me tell you my story. 
After high school I did everything &quot;by the book,&quot; went to college, got a degree, then got my above average paying engineering job. Along the way, my private accredited school pulled a fast one on me. First year, I practically had a full ride, it cost me something like 5 grand and my mom was able to help out with it, so I thought that would continue. The second year of school, they literally halved my financial aid. My mom didn&#039;t make more money, my grades went up, but my financial aid decreased. This trend continued for the rest of college, so after I finished, I ended up with something like $80k in loans, most were private because my mom made to much for the federal loans. 

Fast forward, I worked for over 3 years, before the economy took a shit and I got laid off.  Before this point I was never late on a single bill, always made payments higher than needed, etc. 

I called my loan company the day I got laid off, they &quot;reduced&quot; my payments, but since most of my loans were private college loans, that reduction meant that about half of my monthly unemployment went to Sallie Mae.  Of the other half, part went towards feeding me (else I would not be alive to pay off these loans, the grand purpose of life according to corporations) and the other part went towards my house, ehem, car payment (since I could no longer afford my apartment). 

Of course I could no longer make payments on my 1 credit card or anything else. After a while, I just gave up paying college loans. I was far too hungry and sick (literally) of surviving on ramen noodles. Long story short, I managed to find a job after a year, but my credit score got annihilated, dropping 300 points from 72something to nothing. 

And here is the kicker, my that I managed to keep paying off, died 300 miles after the warranty expired. It will cost something like 3000 to fix it. I still have 2400 that I owe on it. I cannot get a new car, or even a motorcycle, as NO ONE wants to give me a loan because of my credit score. I have to walk to work (takes 1 hour). I cannot get an apartment closer, because of my credit score. 

I still live in my broken down car though. My friends were nice enough to let me park it in the desert behind their house. 

This is bullshit. None of these companies gave a shit when I did everything by the book. Now, I am fucked because of their greed. I never bought retarded shit on credit, I was a good model citizen, until some greedy corporations decided to get involved in BS loans and the whole housing bubble collapsed. 

My mom (dad didn&#039;t come with us when we immigrated to the US) helped out best she could, but since we live on opposite coasts, it was tough. 

I am so glad to have gone through this experience, because it made me realize we are no different than the slaves of ancient Egypt that broke their backs to built things like the pyramids for the dead body of one man, except these corporate bastards have our souls. The devil&#039;s greatest trick is making people believe he does not exist, just like corporations greatest trick is making people believe they live in a &quot;free&quot; country and have the possibility of upward mobility. 

This country needs to change, and the first thing is banning the shit out of limited liability corporations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Credit scores are bullshit. Let me tell you my story.<br />
After high school I did everything &#8220;by the book,&#8221; went to college, got a degree, then got my above average paying engineering job. Along the way, my private accredited school pulled a fast one on me. First year, I practically had a full ride, it cost me something like 5 grand and my mom was able to help out with it, so I thought that would continue. The second year of school, they literally halved my financial aid. My mom didn&#8217;t make more money, my grades went up, but my financial aid decreased. This trend continued for the rest of college, so after I finished, I ended up with something like $80k in loans, most were private because my mom made to much for the federal loans. </p>
<p>Fast forward, I worked for over 3 years, before the economy took a shit and I got laid off.  Before this point I was never late on a single bill, always made payments higher than needed, etc. </p>
<p>I called my loan company the day I got laid off, they &#8220;reduced&#8221; my payments, but since most of my loans were private college loans, that reduction meant that about half of my monthly unemployment went to Sallie Mae.  Of the other half, part went towards feeding me (else I would not be alive to pay off these loans, the grand purpose of life according to corporations) and the other part went towards my house, ehem, car payment (since I could no longer afford my apartment). </p>
<p>Of course I could no longer make payments on my 1 credit card or anything else. After a while, I just gave up paying college loans. I was far too hungry and sick (literally) of surviving on ramen noodles. Long story short, I managed to find a job after a year, but my credit score got annihilated, dropping 300 points from 72something to nothing. </p>
<p>And here is the kicker, my that I managed to keep paying off, died 300 miles after the warranty expired. It will cost something like 3000 to fix it. I still have 2400 that I owe on it. I cannot get a new car, or even a motorcycle, as NO ONE wants to give me a loan because of my credit score. I have to walk to work (takes 1 hour). I cannot get an apartment closer, because of my credit score. </p>
<p>I still live in my broken down car though. My friends were nice enough to let me park it in the desert behind their house. </p>
<p>This is bullshit. None of these companies gave a shit when I did everything by the book. Now, I am fucked because of their greed. I never bought retarded shit on credit, I was a good model citizen, until some greedy corporations decided to get involved in BS loans and the whole housing bubble collapsed. </p>
<p>My mom (dad didn&#8217;t come with us when we immigrated to the US) helped out best she could, but since we live on opposite coasts, it was tough. </p>
<p>I am so glad to have gone through this experience, because it made me realize we are no different than the slaves of ancient Egypt that broke their backs to built things like the pyramids for the dead body of one man, except these corporate bastards have our souls. The devil&#8217;s greatest trick is making people believe he does not exist, just like corporations greatest trick is making people believe they live in a &#8220;free&#8221; country and have the possibility of upward mobility. </p>
<p>This country needs to change, and the first thing is banning the shit out of limited liability corporations.</p>
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		<title>By: In Praise of&#8230; &#124; Freedom Guerrilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Praise of&#8230; &#124; Freedom Guerrilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s I don&#039;t agree with credit checks for jobs. We makes mistakes on our own and sometimes we trust the wrong people who hurt our credit (the good old ex&#039;s) and that should not keep anyone from having a better future by having a better job or a job at all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s I don&#8217;t agree with credit checks for jobs. We makes mistakes on our own and sometimes we trust the wrong people who hurt our credit (the good old ex&#8217;s) and that should not keep anyone from having a better future by having a better job or a job at all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Credit scores can serve a purpose for loans- that I will agree with.  If you are going to lend money of course you want to know if a person is trust worthy and is going to pay back but the inconstancy and the errors between the 3 bureaus is BS. If they are to be allowed to hold us up to the highest standards they deem fit then they should do the same and find a consistent way to accurately record ones past credit history. But they are like all other business and are all about making money; telling you how to live so to buy more products but not living by the same standards (kind of like Streisand and her environmental hoopla).

Now where I have to disagree with you Gonewiththewind is this:

&quot;I’m not sure why you would think your credit score WOULDN’T be a valid indicator of you the person&quot;

Just because you have a low credit score does NOT indicate what kind of person you are. Just because one choose to live inside their means and not play the credit game and pay for only the things they can afford at the time doesn&#039;t mean they are irresponsible; in fact quite the contrary. If more people lived inside of their means and were responsible then this county wouldn&#039;t have the economic problems it&#039;s having; yes, it wouldn&#039;t of had the economic growth it has had but it would at least be more stable with less care for possession and more care for the fellow man next to him.

We as a society have let these companies do this with our own walking around blindly and valuing shinny pretty things; gotta have the bling....

I do hate the inaccuracy of the credit bureaus but in order to have a car that I don&#039;t have a 100% cash for, I have to play the game too :( The elitist have me under their thumb but I will guarantee this, they will never see me by a 25k+ car with a 500 dollar monthly payment (what a waste) so even though I have to play their game they won&#039;t get me completely... Muahahahahaha.. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Credit scores can serve a purpose for loans- that I will agree with.  If you are going to lend money of course you want to know if a person is trust worthy and is going to pay back but the inconstancy and the errors between the 3 bureaus is BS. If they are to be allowed to hold us up to the highest standards they deem fit then they should do the same and find a consistent way to accurately record ones past credit history. But they are like all other business and are all about making money; telling you how to live so to buy more products but not living by the same standards (kind of like Streisand and her environmental hoopla).</p>
<p>Now where I have to disagree with you Gonewiththewind is this:</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m not sure why you would think your credit score WOULDN’T be a valid indicator of you the person&#8221;</p>
<p>Just because you have a low credit score does NOT indicate what kind of person you are. Just because one choose to live inside their means and not play the credit game and pay for only the things they can afford at the time doesn&#8217;t mean they are irresponsible; in fact quite the contrary. If more people lived inside of their means and were responsible then this county wouldn&#8217;t have the economic problems it&#8217;s having; yes, it wouldn&#8217;t of had the economic growth it has had but it would at least be more stable with less care for possession and more care for the fellow man next to him.</p>
<p>We as a society have let these companies do this with our own walking around blindly and valuing shinny pretty things; gotta have the bling&#8230;.</p>
<p>I do hate the inaccuracy of the credit bureaus but in order to have a car that I don&#8217;t have a 100% cash for, I have to play the game too <img src='http://freedomguerrilla.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  The elitist have me under their thumb but I will guarantee this, they will never see me by a 25k+ car with a 500 dollar monthly payment (what a waste) so even though I have to play their game they won&#8217;t get me completely&#8230; Muahahahahaha.. <img src='http://freedomguerrilla.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GoneWithTheWInd</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoneWithTheWInd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 04:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If credit scores were meaningless the landlords and others who wish to do business with you wouldn&#039;t waste their time and money with them.  Obviously they are not meaningless.  Your problem is you want to have your cake and eat it too.  You want to play fast and lose with your contracts and hide that information from those who would contract with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If credit scores were meaningless the landlords and others who wish to do business with you wouldn&#8217;t waste their time and money with them.  Obviously they are not meaningless.  Your problem is you want to have your cake and eat it too.  You want to play fast and lose with your contracts and hide that information from those who would contract with you.</p>
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